This is going to sound kinda crazy, but, can I run this project if I don't currently have a GPU card in my box?

Edit: apparently not ^_^

[slight punn on] Only if UR Wonder Woman! ;-) [slight punn off]
The Multicore CPU thread has been dead for 122 days http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_forum.php?id=3
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Unfortunately no.
The tests with CPU work here on GPUGrid proved that the science is so complex that a CPU does not produce usable results in a reasonable amount of time so they have stopped developing in that direction.
If you are not already familiar with World Community Grid, I beieve they are perhaps the best CPU crunching project not only for stability but also for the work the are doing (multiple different disease related subprojects)
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org
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Thanks - Steve

Yep, already figured that out. Next question: if I have two processers (not that GPU Grid uses even one), and I put this and another CPU-heavy project on 100% resource share each (equal resource share), both will run at the same time right? Or will BOINC timeshare? :(

There's really no point to timeshare, since they use different crunching resources. I want to figure this out before I buy my GPU card.

Next question: if I have two processers (not that GPU Grid uses even one), and I put this and another CPU-heavy project on 100% resource share each (equal resource share), both will run at the same time right? Or will BOINC timeshare? :(

There's really no point to timeshare, since they use different crunching resources. I want to figure this out before I buy my GPU card.

Yep, already figured that out. Next question: if I have two processers (not that GPU Grid uses even one), and I put this and another CPU-heavy project on 100% resource share each (equal resource share), both will run at the same time right? Or will BOINC timeshare? :(

There's really no point to timeshare, since they use different crunching resources. I want to figure this out before I buy my GPU card.

So if I understand correctly, then:

1) four CPU cores + 1 GPU core = five tasks being executed in parallel (assuming 100% CPU availability, and connection to WCG and CPUGRID)
2) I should put RS to 100 for both to achieve #1

Is that right?

[Edit] read those posts again and it looks right. Cheers dudes.

Now, can anyone recommend a low-end (on the cheap, $50 or less) GPU card to wet my feet? :D

Mostly I've read that the GT240 with DDR5 is both cheap, low power, & popular. Read many writing that many Online stores sell it with rebates.
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So if I understand correctly, then:

1) four CPU cores + 1 GPU core = five tasks being executed in parallel (assuming 100% CPU availability, and connection to WCG and CPUGRID)
2) I should put RS to 100 for both to achieve #1

Is that right?

[Edit] read those posts again and it looks right. Cheers dudes.

Now, can anyone recommend a low-end (on the cheap, $50 or less) GPU card to wet my feet? :D

Awesome! Thanks for all the help. I placed my order last night (!) for the GT240. It rang in at just a couple bucks over $100 after rebate.

To be honest, WCG has been amazing for me, and I'll stick to GPUGRID -- because these are the projects that interest me :)

Looking forward to getting it in two weeks!!

I think that the earlier posts are excellent and explained it quite well.

I thought that I should share since I have a machine (win7 64bit, gtx480, i7 930) for running gpugrid and wcg for about a week or 2 now. (well, its running gpugrid/wcg when my kid is not playing games)

Boinc - Preferences settings: (as suggested by other users on this forum)
checkmark - While computer is in use
checkmark - Use GPU while computer is in use
On multiprocessor systems, use at most 99% of the processors
Use at most 100% cpu time

So, basically, it ends up that 7 of the threads are running wcg, and 1 thread is running gpugrid. Task manager is flatlined at 100% (for all threads).

imho... I would not suggest adding more than 2 projects to a box, since it gets interesting on how boinc schedules projects/etc.

imho... I would not suggest adding more than 2 projects to a box, since it gets interesting on how boinc schedules projects/etc.

2 CPU projects is fine. It may not be optimal all the time (as Paul would argue) but it usually gets the job done without wierd stuff happening. And you get the benefit of not running dry if one project fails.

I have seen times where work was 'Ready to start' but cores were idle.

The greatest frequency of my observation was on a 8core (8thread) box with wcg, aqua, and rosetta. Normally, it would have 8 'running' (with only or a mix of wcg/rosetta), except when Aqua wanted all 8cores.

It was not rare for me to see a few cores idle when there was plenty of wcg or rosetta work 'ready to start'.

However, on another box, I have only the wcg project. I have not seen this 'idle core' behavior.

so, hence, why I suggested to not have more than 2 projects.

The effect you describe here is in fact a side effect, a bug, typical for multi CPU projects like AQUA. In fact you should report it on the AQUA site since it was supposed to have been taking care of,

With single CPU projects this phenomenon of idle cores never occurs unless of course the number of active cores/threads has intentionally been limited for some reason.

Kind regards

Alain

Continuing that thought, this is also partly a design decision of UCB wherein the "desire" of the multi-CPU project for all available resources will override the rule of no idle resources. Until all the running applications have check-pointed more and more resources will be idled until the MP task can be started.

As Alain noted, this issue was supposed to be addressed to make the effect minimal so, yes, reporting it on Aqua and the development boards is indicated if it is still occurring with the later generations of the BOINC and Aqua applications ...

Ok, I will post on Aqua. Thanks

I am currently looking at the boinc manager on a box not mentioned above. On this box, it has 4 cores/threads: running wcg, rosetta and aqua. (the video card is only a 8600gt so why no gpugrid).

rosetta: 8 ready to start, 1 running, 4 ready to report
wcg: 7 ready to start, 1 running, 1 waiting to run
aqua: 1 waiting to run
so, 2 cores idle.

I had already checked that memory/disk storage is sufficient.

minor update. since, installing the latest boinc, I have not observered that issue with idle cores.