Two remarks from my side.

1. It is now summer holiday season in the northern hemisphere, so many take 2 to 4 weeks off, away from home and their PCs. So the switch date needs to be some weeks ahead of now.

2. More importantly, there is the Linux users. The standard Ubuntu 9.04 driver is still 180.44, not good enough for CUDA 2.2. However, from what I have been reading the 185 and 186 series for Linux seem to create quite some trouble, meaning that Linux arguably is not ready yet for the transfer to CUDA 2.2. Also, changing non standard drivers under Linux is a bit more difficult than under Windows.

My recommendation would therefore be to consider to holdoff the switchover till Ubuntu is ready to switch to a 185 or better series standard driver.

Switching too soon or too abruptly might lead to a significant loss of contributing PCs and therefore defy the benefit of the upgraded app.

Hint - a possible workaround to not loose the users with older "outdated" drivers would be to have 2 apps available with an opt-in preference box for the new CUDA 2.2 capable app. Variations on this theme are possible.

For your consideration.

Kind regards

Alain

PS - and already tomorrow my GPUGRID cruncher will be out of physical reach for me :). Happy holidays.

I would suggest a news saying "We will switch to blablabla in the next 2 days".

I think more people see news than read forums...

I try to test newer version of nvidia drivers.
With 185.18.14 and boinc 6.4.5 linux version, all my work units left in errors.
Actually, I use 180.29 version of nvidia drivers.

i'm able to run on 185.86 no problems..... i have cuda toolkit 2.2 installed.

186.18 was a problem for me though..


q6600, gtx 260, vista 32-bit. running 6.6.28 but did run 6.6.36 and it works fine under that boinc release version, but i like 6.6.28 more as it's a little more stable and doesn't throw me a crazy error in messages.
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Boinc 6.6.36 Nvidia 186.18 Win XP64, 2 evga 260s with NO problems at all.

I run on a GTX 285 with cudadriver_2.2_vista_64_185.85_general,
BOINC-Manager 6.4.7 without any problems.
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It might not matter all that much for a while -- the server has been out of disk space for 6 hours or so -- not seen any notice that folks who handle the project are in the loop of this though, which is kind of disappointing.

same here latest driver on a 9800gtx and 8500gt no issue.

What, you mean you don't hover over the server 24/7? <smile>

I figured as much, and noted it on a couple of other threads.

And yes it looks to be fixed. Thanks for that.

Men, it was night over here. Fixed.

gdf

Actually, it isn't quite fixed:

7/8/2009 12:55:46 AM|GPUGRID|Sending scheduler request: Requested by project. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
7/8/2009 12:55:51 AM|GPUGRID|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
7/8/2009 12:55:51 AM|GPUGRID|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

But it is clear it is getting worked on.

Men, it was night over here. Fixed.

gdf

Running 185.85 under Win 7-RC (64Bit) without any problems.

Boinc 6.6.36
Q9550
GTX260

Windows Vista x64
Boinc 6.6.36
Geforce 9600GT
186.18 - no problems

A beta app. with Cuda 2.2 would be great..

I'm vista, 32, with driver 185.86, had a few errors this morning and i'm wondering in running aqua and then going straight to a ggrid wu errors them out...

Is there anyone with Windows Vista 32 which can run 185.xx?
Anyone with Linux?

gdf

I have uploaded a beta application acemdbeta with just 10 WUs.
it's CUDA2.2.

gdf

if you run it manually it does not run.
What is the host you are talking about?

This should be your error:
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=937129

and it is exactly what we get.
gdf

Just joined a few days ago.
Running vista 64, gtx295, 185.85 with bm 6.6.20

I do kindof micro-manage, but other than the occasional wonkiness (multiple gpu projects at the same time, dl issues??) I have completed 6, 1 error while computing (running seti and aqua gpu) 2 dl issues.
have 1 running now, 1 in the wings.
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I'm using XP SP3 32-bit w/ 185.85 w/ BOINC 6.5.0, for about a month and a half. I have gotten some errors, but generally maybe 1 or 2 / week (out of 25 or so WU's). It's been over 5 days without any error, so maybe it's better. I do OC some, so I don't know if that leads to the occasionally error or something else is the cause.

Is there anyone with Windows Vista 32 which can run 185.xx?
Anyone with Linux?

I had been wondering what was going on with my Linux installations. Sabayon 4.1 64bit stopped working with Gpugrid after the upgrade to the 185 Nvidia driver as did Suse Linux 64bit. Windows XP x64 is working very well with the 186.18 Nvidia driver. In fact, the Windows XP x64 is more stable and uses less resources than it did with earlier versions of the Nvidia driver.
My Vista 32bit installation never worked well with Gpugrid.
I had switched to running Gpugrid with Linux previously because that had been the most stable and productive OS for Gpu based applications previously.
I look forward to the Linux issues being resolved.

It seems that 185.xx it works for Vista 64.
So far, it is not working on:
1) Linux
2) Vista 32

What about XP?

BOINC dev is trying to debug it. So any help is appreciated.

gdf

I have the latest 186.xxx drivers running ok on Windows 7 64bit. Just joined and returned 2 WU's OK
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Just installed the latest 186.18 driver on my two machines.
One with XP Pro 64 w/260GTX card and one with XP Pro 32 with a 384mb 9600GSO card..
Both appear to be working fine.
Will follow up tomorrow if any issues.

Woke up this morning to find that the machine with the 260 card had errored out 3 WU..First at 6.5 hours and the other two in one -2 minutes..
The machine with the 9600 card is doing ok but showing almost 20 hours total to complete a WU..

Woke up this morning to find that the machine with the 260 card had errored out 3 WU..First at 6.5 hours and the other two in one -2 minutes..
The machine with the 9600 card is doing ok but showing almost 20 hours total to complete a WU..

You are running the beta app aren't you? The "stock" app (acemd 6.64) we know doesn't work with later drivers.

Woke up this morning to find that the machine with the 260 card had errored out 3 WU..First at 6.5 hours and the other two in one -2 minutes..
The machine with the 9600 card is doing ok but showing almost 20 hours total to complete a WU..

You are running the beta app aren't you? The "stock" app (acemd 6.64) we know doesn't work with later drivers.

Hi Guys,

Looking for some advice re good Boinc/Driver combinations.

My current system is Win XP64, Boinc 6.6.28 and 186.18 drivers on an i7 with 3 GTX295's

The system runs one instance of GPUGRID (6.64) fine but subsequent units fail with a computation error almost straight away when they run on the other GPU's. All the GPU's are recognised by Boinc and work fine on Seti so I am a bit stumped with this problem.

Cheers, Simon.

I am having problems with GPUGRID with drivers 185.18.08 in Linux. Is there anyway I could contribute to getting this issue fixed? I have experience developing CUDA programs and cross platform compiling.

So it is a problem with the drivers? Is there any information about what is happening with the driver that is causing this problem? It could be useful to know as I am having problems with one of CUDA programs and it could be related.

Yes, the 185.X series does not work with GPUGrid. Revert to the 180.X series drivers until there's a fix.

Anyone tried the 190.X series yet? I'm going to try cranking out this last WU before I try it myself. Talking to the guys at forums.nvidia.com they said the 190.X initial release still had the bug, but I'll try it anyways just to see.

The frustrating part of all this is Nvidia initially kept blaming my configuration until someone else said they were having a problem. They never did get it through their thick skulls that the 180.X series work, and the 185.X series does not work regardless of the configuration. Only when I asked them what the results of THEIR OWN TESTING was did I get a responce that it was in fact a bug in the 185.X series, but they still blamed the GPUGrid programming as part of the problem.

Makes me long for and ATI card....Oh wait, not really......:-/

Mike D
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Here's the post on the Nvidia forms where they admit there's a problem.....from "Netllama" @ Nvidia Corp. I keep asking about progress, but so far, they just keep releasing more crap. Also, in the reply is my original bug reports I posted on NVNews boards. Go ahead, pile on and pester them, maybe it'll get done quicker....

185.X Series doesn't work with GPUGrid Thread

Mike Doerner
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I didn't read this thread before I joined, so just went ahead and attached anyway. Had been running driver 185.85 so I could use the CUDA 2.2 DLLs (rt and fft) at SETI: no problems here at all.

Yesterday I upgraded to drivers 190.38, and CUDA 2.3 DLLs for SETI. Task 1006526 was run with the 190.38 drivers from start to finish.

Hosts are Windows XP SP3, 32-bit, with BOINC regularly upgraded to test new releases - I'm at v6.6.37 at the moment.

We had many reports of "driver errors" in the optimisation community at SETI - most of them were resolved when the hardware was returned under RMA. If the hardware and cooling are up to scratch, the new drivers work fine, even here.

Of course, that's not to say there aren't problems with the Linux drivers - but let's keep the two issues separate.

What happened on your Linux box? That been the issue.

Mike Doerner
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Is the move to CUDA 2.2 going to work for Linux? The 185 and 190 series drivers do not work with GPUGrid on Linux. Are we just "out" until NVIDIA gets off their rear ends?

Mike D
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OK, here's an important update....I was able to get the 190.18 driver to start crunching successfully under openSUSE. Just not under any incarnation of the release openSUSE 11.1. I am now testing release 11.2 Milestone 4 from http://software.opensuse.org/developer. You will need to install the kernel packages listed on this openSUSE/NVIDIA page to get the 190.18 driver to sucessfully compile,however, I am now running the CUDA 2.3 version on openSUSE, so at least I won't be left behind after this weekend's swiutch.....;-).

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Mike Doerner
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No, I tried 190.18 on SUSE 11.1 before I decided to try Gentoo Linux. After that failed abysmally (yes, I'm a linux-lite person ;-) ), I tried Fedora 11, after I couldn't log into that installation as root, I downloaded openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 4 because I really didn't feel like reinstalling 11.1, which I knew was a problem, and then having to re-install KDE 4.2.4.

So far, my 9600 GSO is up to 14.573% and the task should be complete by tomorrow.

I would have really liked to try Fedora 11 a little more, but the restrictions through the GUI were killin' me.

Mike D
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With the application version 6.66, problems with the nvidia drivers 185.18.14 seems to be gone as you see with my another work unit .
Thanks for your fix.

With the application version 6.66, problems with the nvidia drivers 185.18.14 seems to be gone as you see with my another work unit .
Thanks for your fix.

Your seems to be a card problem, either overclocking or something else.

gdf

All are running fedora 11 x64 and all worked fine with 180.22 drivers.

I'm currently running 185.18.29 on my Suse 11.2 Milestone 4 installation. I was running 190.18 as of yesterday when 185.18.29 was released. So far so good.

Prior to switching to Suse 11.2 M4, I was running Suse 11.1, and the 185 and 190 series drivers NEVER worked correctly on that version of Suse.

Is there a possibility of setting up a small partition on your hard drive to test the Suse 11.2 M4 installation to see if this configuration of software would work with your hardware?

Mike D
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I'm trying the cuda 2.3 190.18 drivers on one f9 machine

This following wu was calculated with the nvidia drivers 185.18.29 on Q6600 GTX280 (boinc 6.4.5 app 6.66).
No problem at all with it.

a bit more progress to report
I added the following line to my boinc startup file
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:.:$BOINC_PATH/projects/www.gpugrid.net
This on a GTX295 running Fedora 9. It has just now completed its first WUs since upgrading the drivers to 185.18.14.
I'll try the same trick on the 2 machines still failing

I'm trying the cuda 2.3 190.18 drivers on one f9 machine

A bit of progress
I've got 1 f11 machine happily running with 190.18 drivers
but still have 1 f11 and 2 f9 machines failing every WU

Although I'd prefer to stay with fedora if at all possible, if it comes to the worst, I'll change to another linux, maybe even suse

I am running Suse 11.2 Milestone 4 with the beta 190 driver. The fix/workaround for Gpugrid and BOINC works and is stable. I had to delete the old work and settings and reset the project to get it to move forward. If you have any remnants of the old work units or settings, you will need to detach or reset to get rid of them. Detach may be better since it erases the old files.
Good luck.

Is it abnormal for the boinc manager to report driver version 0? I have Fedora 11 x64 on a 8800GT. It recognizes the card fine though. Reason I ask is, that it errored out just now on a workunit after a short time (1 hour maybe). And it used to work fine before the upgrade to 185 from 180.xx.

I did uninstall the old one although a kernel upgrade got involved and i had to uninstall and reinstall the 185 driver a few times. But I dont remember how boinc manager reported the driver version when it worked fine.

When I look in the NVIDIA control manager, it reports the correct driver version, 185.xx. I will detach and re-attach as suggested here, to see if it helps.

you will need to detach or reset to get rid of them. Detach may be better since it erases the old files.

Hi,

NVIDIA released new 185.18.31 drivers (Linux).

Michael
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Hi,

NVIDIA released new 185.18.31 drivers (Linux).

Michael

Dude! How'd you find that release so fast? It wasn't posed on NVNews yet.

I've now detach/attached them, we'll see what happens tomorrow when they get more WUs

NVIDIA released new 185.18.31 drivers (Linux).

Yesterday I downloaded the 190.18 beta drivers for Ubuntu 9.04, 64-bit. My first WU with these is has just finished successfully. I did have some trouble installing them though - I had to remove all traces of previous Nvidia drivers before they would run without problems. After many error messages during install, they appear to be ok now.

I had to remove all traces of previous Nvidia drivers before they would run without problems.

Hi Lazarus,

can you give some details, which files etc. I plan to install 190.* drivers, because all the latest 185.* drivers cause client errors.

Michael