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Message 55078 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020 | 9:46:03 UTC

Trying to set up my own dashboard for my BOINC projects and GPU Grid is the only one of 14 that doesnt display your full access key somewhere in your account page. The Weak Key does not work.

Is there a reason why this information is not displayed or is it displayed and I am missing it?

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Message 55079 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020 | 1:01:59 UTC

You can't just copy your GPUGrid.net authenticator from your account_www.gpugrid.net.xml file contents?

Right at the top of the file after the master URL.

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Message 55080 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020 | 12:08:00 UTC - in response to Message 55079.

Many thanks. I had searched for this file many times with Explorer, but it was never found on my computer so assumed that was bad or old advice. Searching Google told me where the darn thing actually was--duh lol

Its still pretty simple (and ugly) but it wasnt working so I havent done much with it. Now that it is I can do something about that ;)

I messed up and had GPU Grid set on auto-add thats how I ended up with all of those Android's in there *smh*

I do see that the rpc_time field for the hosts is absent. YOYO@Home also does not provide this field. Is there a way to request that the admins add that field to the output?

Thanks for the help!

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Message 55081 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020 | 20:35:04 UTC

I'm not sure whether you are asking about showing the account key for the project of the rpc_time field you mention.

The showing of the account key is in the project configuration files. You would need to PM the admin to modify the project files to show it like other projects.

I don't know what you are talking about with respect to rpc_time field. I don't see that on any of my projects. I don't even know what it is supposed to represent.

I am guessing it might have something to do with whatever application you show in your post. I am not familiar with that image at all. Is that BAM perhaps?
That is an account manager and has nothing to do with BOINC. It is a third-party application and you would have to take that issue up with its developers.

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Message 55082 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020 | 21:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 55081.

Thats because this is my custom dashboard, as I explained. No, it has nothing to do with the account manager at all. This is in the xml document that comes from the project server when you request show_user.php--this is all GPU Grid (and YOYO@home).

Here is a 'normal' project with the field included in the host record.

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Message 55084 - Posted: 27 Jun 2020 | 22:35:46 UTC - in response to Message 55082.

Ahh, now I understand the reference. The rpc_time is the time of Last Contact shown on a projects website for a host of the last rpc_seqno.

So, that information is available here and no need to ask the admins to show that data as it is already shown.

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Message 55085 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020 | 1:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 55084.

I am not interested in if the information displays HERE :) It should behave like 99% of all the other projects and include the data in the standard response--otherwise its not really standard. The field is listed in the BOINC specs, so it should be there. Thats all I am saying.

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Message 55086 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020 | 6:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 55085.
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I am not interested in if the information displays HERE :) It should behave like 99% of all the other projects and include the data in the standard response--otherwise its not really standard. The field is listed in the BOINC specs, so it should be there. Thats all I am saying.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/WebRpc
The example given for show_user in this wiki does not list rpc_time in the output.
Is there another reference we can refer to?

As Keith Myers suggested try PM the admin (Toni)

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Message 55089 - Posted: 28 Jun 2020 | 16:02:20 UTC - in response to Message 55085.

I am not interested in if the information displays HERE :) It should behave like 99% of all the other projects and include the data in the standard response--otherwise its not really standard. The field is listed in the BOINC specs, so it should be there. Thats all I am saying.

Hi Michael. I've been doing some work with the developers of BOINC over the last few years, so I may be able to shine some light on this.

The tools you've discovered in trac / wiki / WebRpc are intended for project administrators to use, not for end users. They include powerful administrative tools with access to sensitive parts of the project's database - they might well be marked 'Authorized Personnel ONLY' :-)

Having said that, BOINC is an open-source project which encourages outside developers such as yourself to create new tools to work alongside the main BOINC project. As you have done. There are no formal restrictions on this, but you are asked to behave politely - in this case, projects would ask that you keep the frequency of your RPC requests down to a modest rate, to keep the database query load and internet bandwidth use reasonable. I'm sure you're aware of that.

BOINC is not static software - it is under continual development. The specific field you are interested in was added on Apr 30, 2012 - roughly half way through the lifetime of BOINC to date.

Which opens several cans of worms. Neither the Trac WiKi, nor the server software at this particular project, have been updated in this respect. There are probably multiple reasons for this, but we as volunteers are not privy to them (resourcing, priority given to the scientific research, are two that come to mind). There are more, which I think would be better conveyed by private message, if you're interested.

If you want to persue this issue with Toni, I suggest that you make it very clear that you are only asking for that single-line inclusion in html/inc/xml.inc - that looks to be safe and self-contained. I think there would be strong resistance to making any more significant changes to the current server code, without pressing scientific need.

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