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Message 49817 - Posted: 8 Jul 2018 | 15:11:46 UTC
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I'm preparing some infrastructure for the Windows 64bit CPU app. There are some beta WUs out. They don't to actual calculations (for that we have to wait for the nontrivial psi4 port), but they do test the distribution system, dependencies, and so on.

Some are already coming back successful. The setup, if it works, will be completely native, not require VMs, nor the "linux subsystem". It will expand both the type of tasks we can distribute, and the available machines, of course.

In particular, I'd like to know
- whether it behaves well with "normal" unprivileged installations
- if there is an annoying "Anaconda" icon installed in the start menu

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Message 49818 - Posted: 9 Jul 2018 | 0:40:04 UTC - in response to Message 49817.

Can't seem to DL anything for my windows machine.

Must have been a quick short run.

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Message 49819 - Posted: 9 Jul 2018 | 6:34:41 UTC - in response to Message 49818.

Zalster wrote:
Must have been a quick short run.

Toni wrote:
They don't to actual calculations (for that we have to wait for the nontrivial psi4 port), but they do test the distribution system, dependencies, and so on.

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Message 49821 - Posted: 9 Jul 2018 | 8:43:48 UTC - in response to Message 49819.

There weren't many (approx 300), all of them in the "beta" queue. I need to fix simultaneous starts there too.

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Message 49844 - Posted: 11 Jul 2018 | 9:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 49821.

Waiting for more windows consistent queue....

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Message 49935 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018 | 19:14:55 UTC

Hi, something new? My 88 thread server is hungry for some native Win work. If want to help with testing, can let me know.

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Message 49952 - Posted: 19 Jul 2018 | 8:37:12 UTC

I think the team is busy with Windows GPU application issues, see here for more details: https://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4802

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Message 49953 - Posted: 19 Jul 2018 | 10:16:54 UTC - in response to Message 49952.

https://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4802

Also, several members of staff are on vacation at the moment, so progress will be slow until they return.

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Message 50146 - Posted: 30 Jul 2018 | 7:59:42 UTC - in response to Message 49953.

https://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4802

Also, several members of staff are on vacation at the moment, so progress will be slow until they return.


Now gpu windows app seems to be resolved.
Waiting for September for windows cpu app...

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Message 50436 - Posted: 8 Sep 2018 | 11:17:25 UTC

Is there any windows CPU WU's, I set everything to be enable but I get no tasks.

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Message 50437 - Posted: 8 Sep 2018 | 11:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 50436.

Coming soon (on the QC_beta app initially).

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Message 50445 - Posted: 8 Sep 2018 | 14:37:34 UTC

I got a few beta but they failed, looks like it was installing Python and minconda while trying to run another WU at the same time.

hopefully next round is good.

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Message 50446 - Posted: 8 Sep 2018 | 14:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 50445.

Installing python (miniconda actually) is normal. It should be contained in their own boinc directories. Also multiple installations should wait for each other. There is something else I'm investigating.

Did you get any "visible" changes in the system?

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Message 50450 - Posted: 8 Sep 2018 | 22:19:24 UTC

I see the anaconda option in the start menu, but non of the task actually worked.

if I click it it does not work as path is wrong it has

C:\%windir%\System32\cmd.exe "/K" C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.gpugrid.net\miniconda\Scripts\activate.bat C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.gpugrid.net\miniconda

but %windir% = C:\windows so it actually resolves to c:\c\windows.

I see that it trys to update conda version but it didn't work as the reported version is still 4.5.4

I see these 2 errors:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\3\qmml3\lib\site-packages\psi4\__init__.py", line 55, in <module>
from . import core
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found.

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "run.py", line 13, in <module>
import psi4
File "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\3\qmml3\lib\site-packages\psi4\__init__.py", line 60, in <module>
raise ImportError("{0}".format(err))

I can see the deepdiff, jsonpickle, psi4 in the pkgs folder.

this was most common causes of error. one was

C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.gpugrid.net\miniconda\Scripts\conda install -m -y -p C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\1\qmml3 --override-channels -c gpugridbeta -c defaults --file requirements.txt
) 9>C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\www.gpugrid.net\miniconda.lock
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
17:08:33 (8180): install_miniconda.bat exited; CPU time 0.046875
17:08:33 (8180): app exit status: 0x1
17:08:33 (8180): called boinc_finish(195)

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Message 50489 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018 | 8:36:38 UTC - in response to Message 50450.
Last modified: 13 Sep 2018 | 8:42:35 UTC

The QC Beta app now seems to be working (group name TST4). To do: workaround the creation of the annoying shortcut.

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Message 50495 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018 | 17:45:30 UTC

Seems like they are working now. I see 100% cpu load, running 4x4cores.


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Message 50496 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018 | 18:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 50495.
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Great. Did you see "black windows" like command prompts?

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Message 50497 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018 | 18:40:29 UTC

Didn't notice any :)

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Message 50506 - Posted: 14 Sep 2018 | 11:22:18 UTC

3 UT validated on i7-3770 W10 host ! :-)

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Message 50507 - Posted: 14 Sep 2018 | 12:24:27 UTC - in response to Message 50506.

Can someone give an eye on the cpu% of windows tasks? In particular, if you run only one task, does it limit itself to 4 threads?

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Message 50509 - Posted: 14 Sep 2018 | 17:18:13 UTC
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After few minutes, CPU load is OK: see the picture !

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Message 50512 - Posted: 14 Sep 2018 | 20:12:11 UTC

Just out of curiosity, my Linux PC has been receiving Quantum Chemistry, beta test v3.32 (mt). PC number 258077. Is that supposed to happen? I was under the impression that the beta test tasks were for windows only.

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Message 50513 - Posted: 14 Sep 2018 | 20:36:14 UTC - in response to Message 50512.

Just out of curiosity, my Linux PC has been receiving Quantum Chemistry, beta test v3.32 (mt). PC number 258077. Is that supposed to happen? I was under the impression that the beta test tasks were for windows only.

Same for me, but they ran OK, so they must be for Linux.

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Message 50535 - Posted: 17 Sep 2018 | 19:45:10 UTC

Is there any drivers in the package? I had some stability issues with my computer, which I never saw before. I had one bug check that indicated python as culprit, I doubt it but just checking.

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Message 50540 - Posted: 18 Sep 2018 | 14:26:28 UTC
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I just picked up some of the beta test 3.33 tasks on two different Windows machines. After 10+ minutes, it looks like the tasks are only using one thread.

After 15+ minutes, one of the machines got this error message:

Debug Error!
Program: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\0\qmml3\pythin.exe
abort() has been called
(Press Retry to debug the application)

Let me know if you need more information.

[Edit] After 22 minutes, the second machine received the same error and the task aborted.

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Message 50541 - Posted: 18 Sep 2018 | 14:55:26 UTC - in response to Message 50535.
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Is there any drivers in the package? I had some stability issues with my computer, which I never saw before. I had one bug check that indicated python as culprit, I doubt it but just checking.


There are no "device drivers" needed. The app is CPU only: it might crash, but shouldn't affect your PC.

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Message 50542 - Posted: 18 Sep 2018 | 15:00:58 UTC - in response to Message 50540.

I just picked up some of the beta test 3.33 tasks on two different Windows machines. After 10+ minutes, it looks like the tasks are only using one thread.

After 15+ minutes, one of the machines got this error message:

Debug Error!
Program: C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\0\qmml3\pythin.exe
abort() has been called
(Press Retry to debug the application)

Let me know if you need more information.

[Edit] After 22 minutes, the second machine received the same error and the task aborted.


The root error is here


PSIO_ERROR: unit = 97, errval = 10
PSIO_ERROR: 10 (lseek failed)


your machine appears to be the only one with this specific failure. Do you have space in your HDD, or other uncommon setups (e.g. FAT instead of NTFS)?

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Message 50543 - Posted: 18 Sep 2018 | 15:05:45 UTC

I think I have the same problem on my hostid 193594

I try to increase disk usage.

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Message 50545 - Posted: 18 Sep 2018 | 16:11:14 UTC

Toni asked:

The root error is here

PSIO_ERROR: unit = 97, errval = 10
PSIO_ERROR: 10 (lseek failed)

your machine appears to be the only one with this specific failure. Do you have space in your HDD, or other uncommon setups (e.g. FAT instead of NTFS)?


The error happened on two different computers. Machine 476647 has 100 GB disk space available to BOINC. HDD is formatted as NTFS. I can't think of anything that is non-standard.

Both machines have VirtualBox installed, but that is something that is encountered often in the volunteer computing world.

Let me know if you have more questions.

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Message 50546 - Posted: 18 Sep 2018 | 16:31:54 UTC

I see the same on 2 computers, one has 238GB free with boinc allowed to use upto 218GB.


The other has 366GB free with same settings.

I clicked ignore and it seemed to do something, but not full CPU load.

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Message 50547 - Posted: 18 Sep 2018 | 20:29:36 UTC - in response to Message 50546.

These WUs are failing indeed. I have no obvious explanation but am investigating. Thanks.

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Message 50555 - Posted: 19 Sep 2018 | 8:57:33 UTC

I continue to download wu for linux (QC and Beta). Nothing for windows.
Do i have to change something in my profile?

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Message 50559 - Posted: 19 Sep 2018 | 10:52:26 UTC - in response to Message 50555.

If you receive beta WUs for linux, the you will get them for windows too. I had to cancel all outstanding ones because of a nasty bug (which raised a debug dialog).

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Message 50563 - Posted: 19 Sep 2018 | 22:04:31 UTC
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NOTE: This should be in the Linux section, not Windows, so you can move it, though I expect it would apply to either.

This one failed with "196 (0xc4) EXIT_DISK_LIMIT_EXCEEDED".
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=18977559

The BointTasks message is:

Aborting task 1718_36_33_32_50_14f550fc_n00001-SDOERR_SELE6-0-1-RND8308_2: exceeded disk limit: 61716.49MB > 57220.46MB


However, I retain 96 GB free in my root partition, and the BOINC startup message says: "max disk usage: 184.49 GB".

So apparently that limit is coming from somewhere else(?).

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Message 50638 - Posted: 3 Oct 2018 | 5:36:51 UTC

any progress with the planned QC app for Windows?

If I look at the Project Status page, it currently shows the following:

Long runs (= GPU tasks) unsent: 1,550; in progress: 3,634; users: 1,002
Quantum Chemistry unsent: 179,513; in progress: 550; users: 71

this shows a vast imbalance, the reason for which is that QC CPU tasks are still available for Linux users only.

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Message 50639 - Posted: 3 Oct 2018 | 7:07:33 UTC - in response to Message 50638.

this shows a vast imbalance, the reason for which is that QC CPU tasks are still available for Linux users only.


And not all distro are welcome.
I tried some major distro and i have some problems (for example with Fedora).
No problems with "old" Mint

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Message 50640 - Posted: 3 Oct 2018 | 7:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 50639.
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I am running SuSE Leap 42.3 on my main Linux box, and Leap 15.0 on my HP laptop. The kernel of Leap 15.0 is more advanced and is equal to that of the Enterprise version of SuSE Linux, SLES.It is also being updated regularly, while updates of 42.3 seem finished. But I have most of my tools on it, including Kaffeine, and it runs GPUGRID tasks, both CPU and GPU since the box has a GTX 750 Ti GPU board.
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Message 50641 - Posted: 3 Oct 2018 | 9:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 50639.


And not all distro are welcome.
I tried some major distro and i have some problems (for example with Fedora).
No problems with "old" Mint


Do you have a task number to check?

Thx

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Message 50644 - Posted: 4 Oct 2018 | 10:13:29 UTC - in response to Message 50641.
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Do you have a task number to check?


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I don't know if it is helpful.
I killed this wu after 2h of crunching: wu stopped at 10% and time continued "to restart" from 0
If you need i try other wus

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Message 50645 - Posted: 4 Oct 2018 | 13:32:05 UTC - in response to Message 50644.

Do you have a task number to check?


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I don't know if it is helpful.
I killed this wu after 2h of crunching: wu stopped at 10% and time continued "to restart" from 0
If you need i try other wus


Thanks. What distro is it? Is it updated (i.e. security patches?). The other problem seems to be that the failure was not seen as such, and thus restarted.

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Message 50646 - Posted: 4 Oct 2018 | 17:32:38 UTC - in response to Message 50639.

this shows a vast imbalance, the reason for which is that QC CPU tasks are still available for Linux users only.


And not all distro are welcome.
I tried some major distro and i have some problems (for example with Fedora).
No problems with "old" Mint

I run Ubuntu , not had a problem
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Message 50647 - Posted: 4 Oct 2018 | 17:43:49 UTC

After installing nVidia driver 411.70 on my Windows 10 PC and a Windows 1809 upgrade, my first GPU task completed and validated on it. So far GPU tasks were validated only on my Linux box with SuSE Leap 42.3 and a GTX 750 Ti.
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Message 50648 - Posted: 4 Oct 2018 | 18:15:26 UTC - in response to Message 50647.

After installing nVidia driver 411.70 on my Windows 10 PC and a Windows 1809 upgrade ...

your Win10 1809 Upgrade installed the NVIDIA 411.70 driver? Mine did NOT. I made the upgrade on one of my machines today, but there is still the 388... driver (on the other hand, the CPU usage values of the various apps in the Task Manager are no longer shown correctly; from what I was told: a known bug).

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Message 50649 - Posted: 5 Oct 2018 | 8:01:16 UTC - in response to Message 50645.
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Thanks. What distro is it? Is it updated (i.e. security patches?). The other problem seems to be that the failure was not seen as such, and thus restarted.


Fedora 28 with security update.
Now i return to Mint....

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Message 50650 - Posted: 5 Oct 2018 | 13:10:55 UTC - in response to Message 50648.

No, I installed it via Geforce. Now GPUGRID tasks run successfully and also Einstein@home GPU tasks.
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Message 50654 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018 | 10:47:07 UTC

any progress in developing and testing QC tasks for Windows ?

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Message 50655 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018 | 15:22:40 UTC - in response to Message 50649.

Fedora 28 with security update.
Now i return to Mint....


I have 58 Gb free for gpugrid and, again,
196 (0xc4) EXIT_DISK_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

Oh, my...

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Message 50656 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018 | 19:08:41 UTC - in response to Message 50655.

The same thing happens to me on SELE6 tasks.
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Message 50659 - Posted: 9 Oct 2018 | 6:59:27 UTC - in response to Message 50654.

any progress in developing and testing QC tasks for Windows ?


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Message 50666 - Posted: 10 Oct 2018 | 8:22:25 UTC

No sorry, for this week and maybe the next we have other priorities. But we will definitely come back to it soon.

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Message 50740 - Posted: 26 Oct 2018 | 12:15:32 UTC - in response to Message 50666.

No sorry, for this week and maybe the next we have other priorities. But we will definitely come back to it soon.


And also this week has gone....

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Message 50741 - Posted: 26 Oct 2018 | 13:03:44 UTC - in response to Message 50740.

And also this week has gone....

Their priorities are most likely scientific. There is the side we don't see, the biology/chemistry side. The computation is only half of the puzzle.

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Message 50755 - Posted: 29 Oct 2018 | 10:30:19 UTC - in response to Message 50741.

Their priorities are most likely scientific. There is the side we don't see, the biology/chemistry side. The computation is only half of the puzzle.


I know, i know, and i like they work on science side.
But i don't know how much science they made with 74 pc on their cpu project...

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Message 50758 - Posted: 29 Oct 2018 | 15:59:58 UTC - in response to Message 50755.

Maybe now that IBM has bought RedHat there will be more Linux users.
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